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Post by rwillis352 on Jan 18, 2024 5:09:28 GMT
Hello Everyone! I have a problem with two (hot and cold) 1/2" copper water supply pipes freezing easily. They run from the cement slab on the first floor up thru an exterior wall to the kitchen sink (also on an exterior wall) on the second floor. The space between the first and second floor has no insulation and gets pretty close to the outside temperature. The exterior wall itself is insulated but it is only framed with 2"x4" lumber and the outside is brick. When the temperature drops below freezing both the hot and cold line will quickly freeze unless the faucet is dripped. Being a single handle faucet makes it very difficult to get both sides to drip consistently and I've already had the hot water side freeze after a few hours because only the cold side was dripping. The kitchen sink faucet is the furthest fixture from the water heater and is the terminal fixture on the line. I'm hoping to find a way to post pictures here since the written explanation is difficult to follow and understand. What can I do to keep these pipes from freezing? They already had foam insulation around them and that wasn't enough. Should I replace the copper with PEX to at least hopefully prevent bursting if it freezes again and I don't catch it in time to thaw it out? Plumbing is not my forte and my experience is minimal. Maybe this will work for photos: photos.app.goo.gl/ir2JpRYAKZh8w9xZ9
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Post by Got2learn (admin) on Jan 18, 2024 5:14:53 GMT
Hello Everyone! I have a problem with two (hot and cold) 1/2" copper water supply pipes freezing easily. They run from the cement slab on the first floor up thru an exterior wall to the kitchen sink (also on an exterior wall) on the second floor. The space between the first and second floor has no insulation and gets pretty close to the outside temperature. The exterior wall itself is insulated but it is only framed with 2"x4" lumber and the outside is brick. When the temperature drops below freezing both the hot and cold line will quickly freeze unless the faucet is dripped. Being a single handle faucet makes it very difficult to get both sides to drip consistently and I've already had the hot water side freeze after a few hours because only the cold side was dripping. The kitchen sink faucet is the furthest fixture from the water heater and is the terminal fixture on the line. I'm hoping to find a way to post pictures here since the written explanation is difficult to follow and understand. What can I do to keep these pipes from freezing? They already had foam insulation around them and that wasn't enough. Should I replace the copper with PEX to at least hopefully prevent bursting if it freezes again and I don't catch it in time to thaw it out? Plumbing is not my forte and my experience is minimal. Would you be comfortable rerouting the pipes outside of that exterior wall, because that would be the best solution in my opinion.
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Post by rwillis352 on Jan 18, 2024 5:54:10 GMT
I edited the post with a link with pictures if that helps!
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Post by Got2learn (admin) on Jan 18, 2024 12:09:11 GMT
I edited the post with a link with pictures if that helps! Just saw the pictures. I mean it all depends what you are willing/not willing to do. Just opening the walls like you did will help immensely at keeping hot air flowing, you can even use a small office heater to make sure there's enough hot air in the room and call it a day, but the best way to fix this would be to re-route them back in another wall (not exterior wall) on both 1st floor and 2nd floor, copper is is known to freeze at nothing in these situations, hope this helps!
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